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Urantia Book, Blood Atonement, Power Of God's Word, Michael
The Archangel, Archangel Michael, Simplicity Of The Gospel,
Ministry Of Angels, Spiritual Blindness, Byron Weeks, Jesus
Our Sacrifcial Lamb, Old Testament Prophecies, Conversion Of
Paul, Jesus' Blood Sacrifice, Endtime False Prophets,
Blasphemy Against The Holy Ghost, My Sheep Hear My Voice,
Heresy, False Doctrines, Ignore Reprobates, Deliver Our Sou

Due to a sudden debate which has apparently arisen as a
result of the recent publishing of my article on the
'Urantia Book,' it has become necessary for me to write a
second paper which expounds more fully upon the reasons why
I reject the Urantia Book as an inspired work of God. The
following article is the result of a person sending me a
three-part message in which he makes some serious claims
which attack the credibility of the most important message
contained in the Bible, that is, Christ's atoning blood
sacrifice on the cross at Calvary. As all true Christians
know, this belief is the very foundation and pillar of our
faith. While this person ridicules the Bible and questions
it as being the true unerring Word of God, he praises the
Urantia Book as a New Revelation which further expands upon
themes contained in the Bible.

Those who have read some of my other papers will be aware of
the fact that while the primary source of information and
inspiration for my articles is the King James Bible, I also
explore other writings for additional information which may
expand upon or further clarify the contents of the Bible.
For example, I have read and possess the Book of Enoch as
well as a variety of other Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphical
writings which I am still in the process of reading. In
addition, I have read the Book of Mormon in its entirety and
the study helps of the Jehovah's Witnesses. I have also had
lengthy conversations with the Jehovah's Witnesses in my
area and have read quite a number of their magazines.
Likwise, I have also read parts of the Qur'an, (which I also
possess), and have a limited knowledge of Judaism. In the
New Age arena, I currently possess and have read over 1,500
files on the alien/UFO phenomenon. Furthermore, I am quite
active in certain Internet and FidoNet message areas and
receive a constant flow of email on a daily basis. While I
don't claim to know everything, (a ridiculous claim to be
made by anyone), I do feel that I have gained enough
knowledge in my 40+ years of life to be able to speak
intelligently about some things...particularly those which
pertain to the Bible. I consider myself to be fairly
educated in this respect and spend many hours each week
researching my KJV for new answers and information for new

My normal policy is not to become involved in debates
surrounding my articles. This is for several reasons: First,
I have serious time limitations to do so. Second, my
experience has been that in most cases, those debating have
already made their minds up. These types of debates aren't
so much for trying to learn something new from the other
party, but rather to try to enforce one person's beliefs or
opinions upon the other. In short, debates of this nature
are just fruitless time wasters as many people can attest.
While I do adopt some strong positions in various of my
articles, I still leave it up to my readers to use their own
freedom of personal choice to make a decision based on the
evidence I have presented.

Despite my no-debate policy, due to the gravity of this
person's remarks against the Bible, and the fact that he was
sharing them with many others on his mailing lists, I deemed
it necessary to make a response. In so doing, I decided to
only respond to the first of the 3-part series he sent to
me. I opted to not respond to parts 2-3 for several reasons:
1) it is too time consuming 2) besides being rather
repetitious of the claims made in the first part, parts 2-3
consisted primarily of inflammatory remarks which carried no
real substance worthy of taking up more of my precious time,
and 3) this person was not showing any real signs of having
a sincere interest in the inspired Word of God, the Bible. I
have dedicated a considerable amount of time in writing the
following article, and it is my hope that the person to whom
it is primarily directed will have the decency to sit down
calmly, clear his mind, put aside his personal defenses, and
try to read this with an open heart and mind. Based on the
information he has sent me thus far, it will be a difficult
task for him I am sure.

One remark he made in part two or three which I do feel I
should comment on, is his claim that I never quote Jesus
Christ in any of my articles. As anyone who has read even a
small number of my papers knows, this is absolutley false!
To date, since I began my ministry, I have written and
published close to forty articles, many of which contain
verses from one end of the Bible to the other..including
many Scriptures from the four Gospels which contain Jesus'
own words. There is Spirit and Power in the Word of God,
much moreso than in my own human words. I recognize this and
do the best I can to back up what I say with Scriptures. One
verse which immediately comes to mind is Hebrews 4:12:

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper
than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing
asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the
heart." (Hebrews 4:12)

Unlike previous articles, being as this one is based on
email messages, it will pretty much be in a raw form, and as
you the reader will see, I have quoted the other person's
comments word for word. If anyone reading this is
pro-Urantia and has intentions of posting this article in
your mailing lists or elsewhere, my only request is that you
respect The E.D.G.E. Online policy and copy it in its
entirety without making any changes. Again, I hope you
realize that dedicating so much time to this is a sign of my
concern for this person's spiritual welfare. While I am
quite firm with him in the following, I have done my best to
provide him with Scriptures to show that the shedding of
Jesus' blood on the cross was not only prophesied, but
absolutely essential for the remission of our sins. Before
we get into that meaty issue however, first he takes me
through his beliefs on Michael the Archangel...or according
to his beliefs, Michael the 'non-archangel.'

GUIDE: > equals comments by the Bible Debunker
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Lines without > or >> are new comments by The E.D.G.E. Online.


>Dangerous? Dangerous like Jesus' message was, you mean?

MOST DEFINITELY! Why do you think they are trying to
discredit and slowly wipe out the Bible through modern
science and technology? The day is soon coming when it will
probably be banned altogether due to its radical content!
And why is that? Because it exposes the lies, hypocrisy and
evilness of the systems of man.

>I noticed that on your web page you have text which reads
in part-

>>"If you are one who becomes easily offended by opposing
>>views, you may not wish to proceed any further as some of
>>the positions adopted here may upset you or not meet your

>So, are you ready? <G>

Oh dear! With that kind of an opening and attitude, this is
beginning to look bad already! I normally do not take the
time to engage in these kinds of tit for tat discussions. My
time is too valuable to me. There are many souls I must
reach, people who have a sincere interest in the Word of
God. I hope I am not making a mistake by responding.

>>"According to the Urantia Book, The Archangel was the
>>"Archangel OF Michael" for Michael is the Heavenly title or
>>name of Jesus, who is the Creator of this "Local
>>Universe." Melchizedek is one of His Sons, and Not Jesus
>>Christ. "Michael" has a whole hierarchy of Sons which
>>include Lucifer, and his subordinate, Satan..."

>>-----End Of Quote -----

>I haven't seen all of Week's comments in context, none of
>them in fact, and have not been a party to the thread

Then how can you legitimately respond to the remarks in my
article if you haven't even read the thread you are seeking
to defend??? I have read the Bible numerous times &
continue to devote many hours to it each week. You can't
very well defend the thread or Weeks' comments if you
haven't even read them. To do so is pure speculation on your
part as to what it might have said. But trust me, I assure
you that the above quote is word for word from the thread.

>but it looks above as if someone is taking his statement
>about an archangel who works for Michael and mixing it up
>with the idea that Michael is an archangel.

The Bible clearly refers to Michael as an archangel. Are you
saying he isn't? Are you saying the Bible is lying or that
God is a liar? Or am I misunderstanding you here? In either
event, which do you think I am more inclined to believe, you
or God?

>This is probably the quote from the Urantia Book
>(UB) to which Weeks is referring:

>"The roll call of a dispensation termination is promulgated
>by an attendant archangel. This is the archangel of the
>resurrection, sometimes referred to as the 'archangel of
>Michael.'" (Page 409)

Probably? You mean you are not sure? It doesn't sound like
very good investigative work to me for one who seeks to
defend this false doctrine (Urantia Book).

And here we go with the first bit of New Age pyschobabble.
Compare the above quote from the Urantia Book with the way
Jesus spoke in the Gospels. Who is trying to impress who
here? Jesus' whole ministry was to reach all men, including
the COMMON MAN, with the Gospel of Salvation. For this
reason Jesus used many simple parables which they could
relate to in order to explain things to them, such as the
parable of the sower, the parable of the ten talents, the
parable of the house built upon the rock, etc. These were
simple illustrations which even young children could
understand. I guess the writers of the Urantia Book were not
aiming to share their truth with the common man since they
haven't chosen to speak in the common man's language.
Instead of using terms like 'dispensation termination' which
sounds big and confusing, why don't they just say what they
mean, which I am assuming is 'the end of an age.' I am sure
more people would more easily understand that phrase than
the one chosen. In my view, it just points to the fact that
the writers of Urantia Book are on a big pride trip and want
to impress folks with their knowledge. This is in direct
contradiction to the Scriptures which tell us that knowledge
puffs people up, it gives them the big head, while it is
charity (love) which edifies the human spirit:

"Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we
all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity
edifieth." (1 Corinthians 8:1)

"And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith,
so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am
nothing." (1 Corinthians 13:2)

"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies,
they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." (1
Corinthians 13:8)

All I can say is, if salvation depended on the message of
the Urantia Book, whatever that message is, I suppose many
folks would be doomed to hell because, given the terminology
they use, most people wouldn't even begin to understand it.

>I know there is confusion in the Christian world >about
whether or not Michael is an archangel. The "regular"
>Christians think he isn't and the Jehovah's and perhaps the
>Adventists think he is.

Oh really? I have never met a TRUE Christian yet who doubts
that Michael is one of two archangels mentioned in the KJV
Bible. It is spelled out as clear as day. In fact, the
Catholics believe in seven archangels as I understand it. In
addition to Michael and Gabriel, they believe in Raphael
from the Apocryphal book of Tobit, as well as four others
whose names I don't remember right off hand, but I do have
the files where this is stated. At any rate, those who
reject the idea of Michael being an archangel apparently
don't understand the Bible, or else have chosen not to
believe it. It also sounds like you are attributing things
to the JW's and the Adventists which you are not absolutely
sure of. If this is the case, then perhaps you shouldn't
attribute things to them at all. For the record though, I
have had many conversations with the JW's, and in one of the
more recent ones, and in their Bible study helps as well,
they clearly say that they believe that the archangel
Michael and Jesus Christ are one and the same. One of their
representatives who has been with them for a number of years
told me this face to face, and I have read it in their study
helps for myself. It is for this reason that I wondered if
Dr. Weeks might not be a former didgruntled JW. And for the
record, while the Jehovah's Witnesses teach some things that
are true, they likewise have many false ideas and teachings.
For example, I have directly confronted them about whether
or not they consider a person saved if they don't belong to
the JW's. Their answer was 'no!' they are not saved. In
other words, believing in Jesus/Jehovah isn't enough for
salvation. You must be a part of God's REAL
organization/Kingdom...which in their view is the JW's.
Based on this belief, even referring to them as Christians
is an inaccuracy.

And like many other smooth talkers, assuming that your
readers have swallowed your first bit of disinformation
about Christians not believing Michael is an archangel, you
then proceed below to share verses which most Christians are
aware of...at least those who are serious students of the
Bible. I know I am, and have been for many years. What you
are basically doing here is trying to build on your previous
false statement by quoting scriptures Tsk! Tsk! I've seen
this tactic used many times before. Once that first little
lie slips by, those pushing their false doctrines just keep
adding more to it until it appears that they have built a
strong case for themselves...but it is all built on false

>It's odd too because the problem and the answer both lie
>in the Bible. In Jude it says- "Yet Michael the archangel,
>when contending with the devil he disputed about the body
>of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation,
>but said, The Lord rebuke thee." Jude 1:9 (KJV)

You see, there you go again. Disinformation again. 'Oh, it's
odd! Why, they should know better! After all, it is right
there in their Bible!' That is the spirit of what you are
saying to further support your false argument. Again, I have
never met a Christian who doesn't know that Gabriel and
Michael are called archangels in the KJV!

>That's ONE verse talking about "Michael the archangel".
>Here are THREE Bible verses with the truth about Michael

>"But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one
>and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief
>princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the
>kings of Persia." Daniel 10:13

>"But I will show thee that which is noted in the scripture
>of truth: and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these
>things, but Michael your prince." Daniel 10:21

>"And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince
>which standeth for the children of thy people: and there
>shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there
>was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy
>people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found
>written in the book." Daniel 12:1

I'm glad to see you are quoting some Scriptures. That is
the only thing with validity in my view, or anything that
FULLY agrees with it. It's sad that most New Agers do
not...and the reason they don't is because it contradicts
and exposes the falsity in their doctrines. Now let's see
what you do with these verses.

>A PRINCE is a member of a royal family, the son of a KING.

Agreed...but you must realize, and I believe you do, that
these references to 'princes' and 'kings' are referring to
spiritual entities which guard over and protect God's people
as well as fight the spiritual battles of the Lord as per
the verses in Jude, Daniel and Revelation. And of course
they serve other functions as well such as bearing divine
messages to humans. That, in fact, is the essence of the
word 'angel.' He is a messenger from God.

>An archangel is a servant in the royal household. Michael
>is NOT an archangel, but is in fact according to the Bible,
>a PRINCE, the son of the King, who is of course, God the

Okay, I can accept that an archangel is a servant in the
royal household; afterall, we are ALL servants in the royal
household of God. However, there is no specific verse in the
Bible which makes this direct equation between the words
'archangel' and 'servant.' I just did a search and it does
not exist. But I am willing to give you a little leeway and
not be so dogmatic on this point since you are basically
right in your assumption.

Let me give you a little hint here though: If you expect to
make any real progress with me or any other Christian who
really knows the Word of God, you are going to have to quote
a lot more Scriptures. Here are the verses I would have
used to support your point:

"As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all
men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith"
(Galatians 6:10)

"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but
fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of
God;" (Ephesians 2:19)

"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy
nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the
praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his
marvellous light:" (1 Peter 2:9)

Unfortunately, right after that you go and blow it big time
by not only contradicting yourself, but by putting Daniel
and Jude in opposition to each other. Jude specifically
refers to Michael as an archangel, you said so yourself; so
how can you possibly now claim that he isn't when it is
there in black and white for all to read? Daniel refers to
him as a prince. So why can't he be both? Why can't he be
the son of the King, (just as we are sons and daughters of
the King when we accept Jesus), and an archangel at the same
time? It seems to me that you are making things much more
complicated than they have to be. You know there are a few
verses in the Bible about wresting (twist the meaning of)
the Scriptures to your own destruction:

"Every day they wrest my words: all their thoughts are
against me for evil." (Psalms 56:5)

"As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these
things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do
also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."
(2 Peter 3:16).

>The UB teaches that Jesus, when he is not on earth, is
>Michael, a Prince, and Son of God, not an archangel. Jesus
>is Michael, but Michael is not an archangel.

And with what authority does the UB teach these things?
Certainly not with the authority of the God I worship and
believe in! God wouldn't tell anyone to write something
which clearly contradicts His Word as given to all of the
holy scribes and prophets of bygone years. So exactly how
did this deceptive work come into existence? Who wrote it?
What are their names? Give me some verses from the KJV to
substantiate your claims. Show me specifically where it says
that Jesus is called Michael in Heaven, and that Michael is
not an archangel. You are putting the teachings of this
Urantia Book above the teachings of God's holy Word. To
accept the teachings of the UB when they contradict the
Bible is calling God and the prophets of the Bible
liars...that is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, the Spirit
of Truth, which Jesus said was the unpardonable sin in this
life as well as in the next! It doesn't appear to me that
you folks have much fear of the one true God.

>>In quite a few of my other articles, I have sounded the
>>alarm for the many lies and inaccuracies which are being
>>espoused and propagated in this current 'Age Of
>>Deception' by the New Age thought advocates and other
>>self-styled false prophets.

>I would be very happy to address any "lies and
>inaccuracies" that you may think you find in the UB. I think
>what you really mean are differences from what you believe,
>rather than "lies and inaccuracies". I hope that's what you
>really mean. Are you open to discussion?

No, that isn't what I mean. There you go trying to twist my
words again...It is not an issue of lies and inaccuracies I
think I MAY find, but rather lies and inaccuracies which I
KNOW I have found based on God's written Word. As I said
previously, if what YOU believe contradicts the Scriptures,
then it is YOU who are in error here, not I.

And no, I really wasn't open to discussion on this, yet look
how much time I have already spent on this to try to clear
things up for you. This is the whole reason I avoid these
kinds of discussions. This past day would have been better
spent writing a new article for those who have a SINCERE
interest in learning about God's Word, and not those who
reject it and replace it with a delusional work like the
Urantia Book...but God knows what He is doing by having me
write this. Perhaps it will alert and awaken some folks to
the true nature of the deceptive lies contained in the
Urantia Book.

>>The above quote is another clear reflection of the strong
>>delusion which is overcoming those who have rejected
>>God's holy unerring Word, the Bible.

>I believe you misinterpreted Dr. Weeks' statement, and
>hopefully I have shed some light on that situation.

I didn't misinterpret anything. I have the whole letter in
my possession exactly as he said it. He denies the
redemptive power of Jesus' blood shed on the cross. He calls
it barbaric. There is absolutely no way to misunderstand
what he is saying. It is an antichrist false doctrine of

And tell me, how are you going to shed light when you
yourself are walking in utter darkness? That is totally
contrary to the teachings of Jesus:

"And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the
world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because
their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth
the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds
should be reproved." (John 3:19-20)

"This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye
henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of
their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being
alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is
in them, because of the blindness of their heart:" (Ephesians

"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if
the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
(Matthew 15:14)

"And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the
blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?" (Luke 6:39)

>Regarding what you describe as "God's holy unerring Word,
>the Bible", I have a wonderful book here called "The
>Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy". You can order one from
>Prometheus Press if you are unafraid.

'Wonderful'??? Give me a break! Why would I want to waste my
money reading Satan's lies? If you are foolish enough to do
such things, well, it is your money, so it's really your
choice...but I do think it is a bit silly when a person has
to pay to gain their own ignorance. You have realy exposed
your TRUE feelings about the Bible with your above remarks.

And look at that last remark you made, will you? '...if you
are unafraid...' Sounds just like Satan himself! You know,
Satan also dared Jesus a number of times while He wandered
in the wilderness for 40 days fasting. He also dared Adam
and Eve in the Garden of Eden...and he is daring many people
to follow him today. According to the Bible, someday they
will follow him indeed...to their own destruction!

>> I have never read the 'Urantia Book' in its entirety, and
>>to be honest, based on what I have seen of it, I have
>>absolutely no desire to waste my time doing so.

>How much have you actually read? And how much information
>about the UB have you gotten from other sources? I have read
>it several times through since 1959 and to tell you the
>truth, it's simply wonderful.

I read exactly as much as I needed to in order to find out
that it is a lie of Satan. The minute Byron Weeks denied
Christ's sacrifice on the cross, I knew there was really no
need to read any further. At least for a God-fearing
Bible-believing Christian like myself! I have more important
things to do with my time than read Satan's crap!

You have read the Urantia Book several times since 1959? No
wonder you are so deceived and think it is so wonderful.
Tsk...Tsk! And how many times have you read the Bible in
full in that same timeframe?

>> Considering the above quoted material, plus another
>>letter written by Dr. Weeks last year, (which I will shortly
>>quote below), I have no doubt whatsoever that the 'Urantia
>>(their name for Earth) Papers' are just another product of
>>New Age psychobabble.

>The "above quoted material" regarding Michael as archangel
>has already been explained and neutralized, unless you have
>some other comments on it. I'm not saying the UB agrees with
>all things "Christian" but there's no need to misrepresent
>the Urantia Book. In fact, the UB is not "new age" at all,
>and is certainly not "psycobabble". But then you say you
>have never read it, so what do you know?

'Neutralized'? Maybe in your twisted way of thinking! If you
still think that after what I have just written, then you
are in even worse shape than I had imagined. The more of
this I read from you, the more I see how deeply involved you
are in the forces of darkness! That which you claim to be
light is darkness:

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
angel of light." (2 Corinthians 11:14)

>I know some things about "God's holy unerring Word, the
>Bible". Here's an inspiring quote, don't you think? "But
>Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy
>master, and to thee, to speak these words? [hath he] not
>[sent me] to the men which sit on the wall, that they may
>eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?"
>2 Kings 18:27 [All Bible quotes from the King James.]

And what is this? Some vain attempt to create a little
shock effect? Are you trying to show me the Bible is a dirty
nasty little book or what? You must have worked really hard
to find that one! Why don't you read the whole chapter and
put the verse in its proper context? This is the story of
how Sennacherib the King of Assyria sent his emissaries to
warn King Hezekiah to surrender and to not resist
Sennacherib's invasion. In the above verses, the emissaries
are saying how bad it will be if the King of Judah doesn't
surrender, plain and simple.

[NOTE TO OUR READERS: this person quoted this same verse on
at least two other occasions in other parts of his 3-part
message to me. He seems to have a morbid fascination for
dung and piss...or a very childish impish mentality!]

>By the way, did you know that the NIV Bible has dropped
>over 65,000 words from the Bible, whole verses even?
>Amazing, isn't it? Just between you and me, I think the NIV
>version is sort of a perversion for having done that. I can
>send you the information if you like.

That doesn't concern me in the least since I have never used
the NIV. The KJV suits me fine. As I have said many times
before, I don't trust those modern watered-down versions of
the truth. They are lifeless and spiritless in my view. So
what is this, another attempt to shock me??? Sorry...didn't

>>I don't know where they originated from at this time, but
>>it is absolutely clear to me that the motivation behind
>>writing them was to strike another blow at the credibility
>>of, and the Truth found within the pages of the Holy Bible.

>And how is this, "absolutely clear" to you? I can well
>imagine the Jewish traditionalists of Jesus' time saying the
>same about him, that he was there to strike a blow against
>the scriptures and the established Jewish religion.

If you haven't gotten it by this time, I guess you never
will...at least not from listening to me. Your mind is so
darkened you wouldn't see the truth if it smacked you in the
face. Jesus is the Saviour of humanity. His blood on the
cross washes us clean of all unrighteousness. Dr. Weeks
totally denies this in his 1996 letter. It is antichrist

>> As will be seen by Mr. Week's letter below, the 'Urantia
>>Papers' strike at the very heart of Christianity, that is,
>>at the cornerstone of our faith, which is the redemptive
>>blood of Jesus Christ on the cross at Calvary.

>Yes, it is true that the Urantia Book does say that Jesus
>did not come here to "die for our sins". Really, why should
>the Father require his Son to be murdered horribly so that
>the Father could forgive our sins? Think about that. Here's
>what the Bible says God requires of us in order to have our
>sins forgiven: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses,
>your heavenly Father will also forgive you:" Matthew 6:14

There are some things in the Bible which we have to take by
faith, even if we cannot fully understand them with our
carnal minds at this time. How can you possibly expect to
understand God's whole plan of salvation in the Bible just
by taking one verse out of context? You can't. This is
exactly what you have done so far in this message. Instead
of taking out just one verse which at first 'appears' to
support your argument, read the whole chapter, or even the
whole book. Better yet, trash that Urantia Book and start
studying the whole Bible!

Matthew 6:14, which you quoted above, means exactly what it
says. As in many other verses, Jesus was teaching us about
the reciprocal nature of God's Kingdom. How can we expect
God to forgive us for our sins and mistakes, if we aren't
even willing to do the same with others? Through your
darkened understanding, you are trying to use that one verse
to negate Jesus' sacrifice on the cross, while ignoring many
other key verses. It just doesn't work that way. See the
many verses listed below.

>Don't you believe that, from the Bible? You know, the
>Master was here for over 30 years and spoke to many large
>crowds, and NOT ONCE did he ever tell them, "Yo, people, I
>have come to earth to die for your sins". The most important
>cornerstone of Christianity, and Jesus NEVER said it. Sadly,
>Christianity is not really a religion OF the teachings of
>Jesus, but is a religion from PAUL about Jesus.

As Jesus said to the Sadducees in Matthew 22:29:

"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God."

By your very statements above, you are showing what little
knowledge you have of the Scriptures. The Apostle Paul was
only repeating what many of the Old Testament prophets had
said through the spirit of prophecy hundreds and thousands
of years before, the same things that Jesus' own disciples
finally came to understand after His Resurrection. I don't
think you can begin to understand the wonderful plan God put
into action thousands of years ago, unless you truly become
a student of the Word of God. Briefly, Jesus was the
sacrificial Lamb of God who came to take away the sins of
the world. As John the Baptist said:

"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith,
Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the
world." (John 1:29)

He was the final blood sacrifice, all previous ones having
been actual lambs slain upon the altar of the Temple of
Solomon in Jerusalem, a symbolism and foreshadow of what
Jesus would eventually come to do. The ancient rites of the
Levitical priests are full of heavy symbolism, all
reflecting the truths which Jesus came to fulfill on the
cross of Calvary. Even Abraham's test of faith in
sacrificing his son Isaac was a foreshadow of things to
come. Consider also how, during the final plagues in Egypt,
the children of Israel had to smear the blood of an
unblemished lamb on their lintels and door posts so that the
angel of death would pass over them and not harm them. This
was an act of faith, just as we must make an act of faith by
believing in the redemptive blood of Jesus on the cross.

Aside from the examples above, the Old Testament is
literally full of hundreds of prophecies describing the
birth, life and sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross, but
unless your mind, heart and spirit are open to them, you
will never understand them, or even see them for that
matter. Isaiah 53 is an excellent chapter which you might
want to read, but only do so if you are sincere in wanting
to know the truth. If you read it with a closed mind, just
looking for ways to wiggle out of the truth, then that is
all you will see.

If you were to spend as much of your time reading the Bible
as you do the Urantia Book, perhaps you would begin to
understand these things. Another prime example which Jesus
quoted Himself was when He compared His coming three days in
the tomb to the three days Jonah spent in the belly of the
great fish:

"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's
belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12:40)

"For as Jonas was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also
the Son of man be to this generation." (Luke 11:30)

Here, as in other places, Jesus is prophesying His own death
and resurrection, something He knew He had to accomplish in
order to reconcile humanity with God the Father. He used a
similar example when dealing with the Jewish elders:

"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and
in three days I will raise it up." (John 2:19)

"We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made
with hands, and within three days I will build another made
without hands." (Mark 14:58)

You may wish to read around these verses to understand the
full context of the story. He was referring to the temple of
His body.

Consider some of the words Jesus spoke during the Last

"For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed
for many for the remission of sins." (Matthew 26:28)

Jesus knew that until He shed His innocent blood on the
cross, there could be no reconciliation with the Father,
there could be no remission of sins for any of us. He said
so Himself in the verse above. For you to state that Jesus
did not speak of His death on the cross and the purpose for
it is totally inaccurate, and probably due to your not
knowing the Scriptures...and I have only given you a few
examples to show that He in fact did.

To say that salvation through Jesus' blood sacrifice was a
religion created by Paul is thus a fallacy. Paul became an
Apostle AFTER Jesus' death on the cross, and AFTER His
Ascencion. In fact, Paul referred to himself as the least of
the Apostles. (1 Cor. 15:9) Paul merely confirmed what Jesus
had already said at different times and places, as well as
what he learned from the other disciples. Because of the
fact that he was a learned Pharisee before his conversion,
with lots of worldly knowledge, plus a legalistic view of
the Scriptures, it took the Lord knocking him off of his
horse and blinding him for a few days before the Lord was
able to open his spiritual eyes. You can read all about this
in Acts chapter 9. But once his eyes were opened, Paul was
blessed with a great understanding of the full meaning of
Christ's sacrifice on the cross. He came to understand that
without Jesus' blood shed on the cross, there could be no
remission of sins. He came to understand that God's
forgiveness is conditional upon our acceptance of that
sacrifice. Thus, he began his ministry to the legalistic
Jews of his day. Following are a few key verses from his
many writings:

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
(Romans 3:23)

"Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith
in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission
of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"
(Romans 3:25)

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and
without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22)

Paul was not the only one to teach this doctrine of blood
sacrifice as you claim. The other Apostles believed in it as
well. They knew that Jesus was the final sacrificial Lamb
prohesied many times in the Old Testament. Consider the
words of the Apostle Peter:

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with
corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain
conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But
with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without
blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before
the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last
times for you," (1 Peter 1:18-20)

John also was very much aware of the significance and
necessity of Jesus' blood sacrifice. Consider some of what
he had to say both in his epistles as well as in the Book of

"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have
fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ
his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1 John 1:7)

"This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ;
not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the
Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth."
(1 John 5:6)

"And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the
first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of
the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our
sins in his own blood," (Revelation 1:5)

Following are a few additional verses which explain how
salvation is unattainable through our own 'goodness'...even
if we forgive each other as you claim:

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any
man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9)

"Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but
according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of
regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;" (Titus 3:5)

"And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou
shalt be saved, and thy house." (Acts 16:31)

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he
that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath
of God abideth on him." (John 3:36)

As you can see from the above, the theme of Jesus' sacrifice
on the cross as the prophesied final Lamb of God, is central
throughout the Bible, both in the Old and New Testaments.
Remember, the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed,
and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. It is
NOT just some new religious doctrine cooked up by Paul as
you claim...and I only mentioned a few verses. If you are
not yet convinced of this truth, then it is because you do
not want to be. You have purposely chosen your own delusion
just as Paul prophesied would happen in the Last Days. You,
and many like you are a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.
Consider this verse:

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound
doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;" (2 Timothy 4:3)

This is EXACTLY what many, like yourself, have done. They
have rejected the Truth of God's Word and have found their
false teachers like Dr. Byron Weeks and all of the many
other New Age false prophets who have distorted and twisted
the Scriptures to their own convenience. And you know what
is truly terrible and frightening about this? It is that
there are many who are young in the faith, or who may not
have a solid foundation in the Word of God, who will fall
for the dangerously deceptive doctrines of these satanic

Just prior to his death by stoning, Stephen rebuked the
pharisaical Jewish leaders by saying:

"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do
always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do
ye." (Acts 7:51)

Today, many many people are resisting the Truth of God's
Spirit. As I have said in a few other articles, Jesus taught
that the only sin which is unforgiveable both in this life
and the next, is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, because
the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Truth which testifies of the
sacrifice of Jesus on the cross:

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy
shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the
Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever
speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven
him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall
not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the
world to come." (Matthew 12:31-32)

>> I do not recommend that any Christian, particularly young
>>Christians who are new in the faith, read this demonic work
>>of darkness.

>I'm afraid the cat is out of the bag, and the more you
>badmouth the UB, the more courageous truth seekers out there
>will simply have to read the book for themselves and make
>their own decisions. You are in the position that the
>Catholic Church used to take, telling folks not to see
>certain movies, thus guaranteeing a large audience.

Perhaps you are right. But with this current article, I hope
to counter any negative effect that people like you may have
on God's true sheep. As Jesus said:

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
(John 10:27)

"And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before
them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And
a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for
they know not the voice of strangers." (John 10:4-5)

>> If you do, you may seriously doubt your faith!

>Your faith may well be CHANGED, changed even into a greater
>faith, but that's the nature of growth and the search for
>truth. When Jesus had finished his mission, many in
>Palestine had had their faith shaken. The Urantia Book will
>only ENHANCE your faith in God and in his Son.

How can the Urantia Book possibly give people a greater
faith in God and Jesus, when it denies the very reason for
His coming here in the first place? Absolute lies!

>However, it's possible that some of your erroneous beliefs,
>especially some promulgated by Paul, will have to go by the
>wayside, just as little children have to eventually stop
>believing in Santa Claus.

Again you show your total ignorance of the Scriptures and
spout your lies...And then you blaspheme by comparing the
redemptive blood of Jesus to SATAN Clause! :-(

>> As far as I can tell, the voice or entity which inspired
>>this book comes from the very depths of hell itself!

>Again, I must ask you, how can you "tell" that? The fact is
>that all you can "tell" is that some things in the UB are
>not Biblical or Pauline, are not according to what you

How can I tell? If all of the above quoted verses and text
don't show you how I can tell, then you are really in need
of a strong shake-up from the Lord...and He has been known
to ruffle up a few people to get their attention. And what
is frightening is that you recognize that some parts of the
Urantia Book are not Scripture-based and yet it doesn't
bother you in the least. In fact, you promote this garbage!

>> For some, my words may seem very harsh indeed, but after
>>reading the following excerpts, I am sure you will
>>understand why my reaction to this material is so strong,
>>particularly if you likewise profess to be a Christian:

>Well, how about if I take a look at the excerpts below and
>your comments and see if I can shed light on the situation?

That is going to be rather hard for you to do. You see, you
have to be walking in the Light yourself before you can
share it with others.


>> What blatant lies!

>What lies do you refer to?

See ALL of my above comments and verses. I have spent half
my day on this, literally, and I don't feel there is much
more I can say to you on this issue. I commit you to God's
hands. Only a work of His Spirit is going to remove your
blindness and hard heart and give you a heart of flesh:

"And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit
within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their
flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:"
(Ezekiel 11:19)

>>What heresies are being committed in the holy name of Truth!

>What heresies do you refer to? If I'm not mistaken, a
>"heresy" is simply someone else's religious belief that you
>don't agree with, isn't that so?

That's your definition, not God's definition! Here's a few
verses to explain it to you:

"But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they
call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing
all things which are written in the law and in the
prophets:" (Acts 24:14)

Like the Jewish leaders of old, you do not believe in all of
the Old Testament prophecies regarding Jesus death on the
cross, found in both the Law of Moses (Torah) and the

Furthermore, denying the doctrine of Jesus Christ is heresy
because His doctrine is His Father's doctrine:

"Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but
his that sent me." (John 7:16)

And what is the doctrine of Jesus Christ? See all of the
above if you still haven't figured it out yet! Here are a
few verses which warn us to stay away from those who hold
deceptive doctrines like those you espouse:

"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause
divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye
have learned; and avoid them." (Romans 16:17)

"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro,
and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the
sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in
wait to deceive;" (Ephesians 4:14)

"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome
words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the
doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud,
knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of
words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil
surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and
destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness:
from such withdraw thyself. (1 Timothy 6:3-5)

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness:" (2 Timothy 3:16)

Since when was the Urantia Book declared Scripture? And by
whom? I must have missed it. It is inspired by a god
alright...but not the one that I believe in.

"Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that
he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to
convince the gainsayers." (Titus 1:9)

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of
Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of
Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come
any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not
into your house, neither bid him God speed:" (2 John 1:9-10)

And that is the end of my discourse. If by now you cannot at
least begin to understand the importance of Jesus' sacrifice
on the cross, then I really don't know what else to tell
you. I could quote you more Scriptures, but if you don't
even believe in them as the inspired Word of God, then what
good is it going to do? Jesus specifically warned us:

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye
your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their
feet, and turn again and rend you." (Matthew 7:6)

In other words, Jesus commands us to not waste our time
sharing the Word with those who have absolutely no desire or
intention of believing it. Despite this, you now see this
lengthy message I have written for you. I have done it with
the hope that I will be able to get through to you...but it
is really your choice. Given the general tone of all of your
remarks towards the Bible, and your strong faith the Urantia
Book, I feel I am fighting an uphill battle. This will be
my final response to you on this matter. I have more than
delivered my soul to you as we are commanded:

"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of
Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them
warning from me. When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt
surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to
warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the
same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood
will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked,
and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked
way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered
thy soul." (Ezekiel 3:17-19)

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